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coffee time - evil eye
Was on a SFSignal podcast last night that I only partially had any business being on. (I actually don't read super hero comics.) The topic was "Which Female Super Hero Deserves Her Own Movie?" I liked the idea. So, I signed on and did some research. I had a good time. The discussion got a bit recursive, however, when I argued that if comics didn't have a good enough female super hero to carry a film, why didn't they just write a new one? Clearly, the ones they have don't measure up. So, be creative. Make something up! Then came the "But they wouldn't have a ready-made audience!" stance. Dude, Hollywood makes films without that and succeeds all the time. And then, look! You've a new property! Then it went back to how it had to be an already written character. Round and round. Mind you, that wasn't the *panelists* position. Just someone arguing the studio point of view. It seemed extra lame in that light. I mean, either you're capable of creating interesting characters or not. And anyway, don't comic book companies come up with new male characters all the time? (Someone brought up Blade which didn't have a great following but made a lot of money.) We did eventually arrive at a list that might be cool with some rewriting. Still, I don't understand why a new female super hero can't be made from scratch, if nothing in the current batch works. I just don't get the excuses.

Meanwhile, in another part of the forest... I looked outside my kitchen window this morning and saw a guy dressed in black, carrying enough tree trimmings to cover his head and entire upper half of his body. My first thought was, "We are a hedge. Move along." Which when you think about it, is rather fitting before morning Kung Fu class. :)

Comments

stina_leicht
Jun. 1st, 2012 02:38 am (UTC)
great script + great character = everything else falls into place. really. it's not that difficult. i just keep feeling that this "it's complicated" thing is just everyone being reluctant to embrace change on a certain level.

that said, am i the only one who feels the expression "tentpole" is a rather unfortunate word choice?
mmaresca
Jun. 1st, 2012 02:51 am (UTC)
Oh, Hollywood is desperately afraid to embrace change. This is incredibly evident with just a glance at all the big movies of the past decade. I recently read an article that basically said the current era of filmmaking is "the era of fanfic". Almost all the movies being made right now are more or less adaptations or remakes-- Hollywood doesn't want to risk big money on something that isn't a recognizable property. Even blandly-generic group rom-coms get tied to popular self-help books.


Pretty much the only Hollywood company not doing that and focusing on script and character? Pixar.
stina_leicht
Jun. 1st, 2012 04:07 am (UTC)
that isn't what i'm arguing here. hollywood does place women in lead roles. comic book companies making films can't wrap their heads around the concept. neither can the fans, unless it conforms to their strict requirements, it seems. that's why there isn't a good female superhero film.
mmaresca
Jun. 1st, 2012 04:30 am (UTC)
I'm struggling to think of many Hollywood action movies with a female lead (that wasn't Angelina Jolie). I remember Julie Kenner faced that very problem when she was in talks for adaptation of her Demon Hunting Soccer Mom series. She was told that studios weren't going to make any more female-lead action movies unless it was A. already proven property or B. starred Angelina Jolie. (Two franchises do come to mind: Underworld and Resident Evil-- those fall under category A, I guess.)

But I think we're both arguing the same point: not that the characters don't exist or don't have fan bases, but that the studios aren't willing to make those movies. I disagree about the fans, though. If, say, they made an X-Men film that put Storm or Kitty Pryde in the central role, the fans would be there for it. (Provided that it was a good film with a solid script, of course. My biggest fear is such a project would get the same half-assed scripting that they gave Green Lantern or such, and thus it would fail, and then the studios would throw up their hands and say, "See, didn't work!")

(Have I mentioned that superhero movies is a subject I'm passionate about? :)